In today's minipod (mini episode), we share the story of how this podcast came to be and why we called it Out of Plaece.

Discover what the phrase ‘out of place’ means to us, how that feeling can follow you through life and why it inspired us to create something. While Paul was on a trip to Bali, writing a book, Ann had an idea that was sparked by a conversation about community and how, sometimes, it’s not about finding it but about creating it.

We’re not just partners on a podcast; we’re also business partners of a tech startup called Plaece, hence the funny spelling of the name.

We're starting off with a series of minipods, bite-sized episodes to give you an insight into who we are, why we do this and how we ended up here. We'll give you a hint: it was a near-death experience.

And, yep, we forgot to edit the outro on this one. Not an intentional cliffhanger at the end 😂