In this episode, I speak with Jo Dunn of Kindred Birth and the Kensal Birth Collective about the art of birth-keeping and the decline of traditional midwifery within institutional systems. We explore: What it means to truly hold space for physiological birth The erosion of midwifery wisdom under regulation Why reclaiming autonomy is vital for birthing people and birth workers alike Jo also treats us to one of her own powerful poems — a beautiful tribute to the majesty of undisturbed birth.