
This is Anneke, and welcome to The Original Medicines Podcast — where healing professionals and wisdom keepers share the medicines that aren't found in any textbook. For thousands of years, healing wisdom was passed down through stories, through touch, through presence — mouth to ear, heart to heart. In these times of collective transformation, we're returning to that ancient way of sharing knowledge that can't always be spoken in professional settings.
Today I'm joined by Chantal van Genderen — permaculture designer, food forest creator, teacher, coach, nutritional therapist, visual artist, exhibition maker, editor, beekeeper, herbalist, Hula dancer, and stargazer. As Chantal says, what's needed depends on the question you bring, but the answer is always multifaceted and full of attention — making every conversation sparkling and refreshing.
Our dialogue begins with the Hawaiian goddess Laka — she who represents the natural forces of life. Like ourselves as human beings, this conversation unfolds in many layers, weaving together Hawaiian Hula tradition, questions of cultural belonging and appropriation, and our relationship with the traumatized earth that feeds us.
We explore how culture connects us to the land, how permaculture mirrors human psychology, and what it means to heal both ourselves and the earth simultaneously. This is a free-flowing dialogue between two practitioners finding their way on a shared path — one that you're invited to walk alongside, both through this conversation and beyond.
This conversation explores indigenous wisdom as medicine — how ancient earth-based practices offer pathways to healing our disconnection from land, culture, and each other in modern life.
This episode is in Dutch.