In this episode of Opposite of Neutral, Chris and Evan launch into a whirlwind of topics that range from cheese (per usual) to pillow preferences, before getting into the subject of blueprints. Evan breaks down the origins of blueprint-making—chemicals, UV light, and all—and dig into its existence as everything from a design essential to a metaphor for life’s plans.

They also get into the philosophy of planning—when it’s necessary, when it’s useless, and how blueprints became the perfect symbol for translating wild ideas into something tangible. Is the blueprint the point where ideas become real? Or is a blueprint the theory, and the reality is the building, widget, or whatever else the blueprint is used to make? Expect jokes about cheese fondue, debates about emergency drills, and a teaser about their next milestone-themed episode.

Grab a snack (may we suggest a hunk of Tillamook?) and join them for this exploration of structure, spontaneity, and the art of the happy accident.