An Essential Difference? Males, Females, and the Spaces In Between ~ Augustín Fuentes

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On Humans

Ilari Mäkelä

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Where do we come from? How did we get here? And what kinds of creatures are we? On Humans features conversations with leading scholars about human nature, human condition, and the human journey. From the origins of war to the biology of love, each episode brings fresh insights into perennial questions about our self-understanding. The show now unfolds in series of episodes built around a chosen theme, offering ever-deeper dives into some of the biggest questions in science, philosophy, and history. Welcome to the journey!

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An Essential Difference? Males, Females, and the Spaces In Between ~ Augustín Fuentes

On Humans

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An Essential Difference? Males, Females, and the Spaces In Between ~ Augustín Fuentes

Binary thinking is out of fashion. But what about biological sex?

Whatever we might say about diversity and fluidity, the ideas of “male” and “female” seem essential in biology. I’ve taught the subject. I’ve drawn bees and flowers, with arrows from anthers to ovaries. I’ve used the terms “dad cell” and “mother cell” while doing so. I don’t know how I could have done it any differently.

And maybe that’s just fine. Human sex cells are binary: sperm and egg. But here’s the twist: humans aren’t sex cells. Humans are animals. And animals aren’t so easily grouped. XY chromosomes don’t always produce a penis. And when we turn to hormones, brains, and behaviours, the picture gets even messier.

Or so argues Princeton Professor Agustín Fuentes, a leading expert on human biology. His new book, Sex Is a Spectrum, came out this week. It makes the case that biology no longer supports a sharp separation between male and female. Whether you agree with Fuentes or not, it’s an argument worth taking seriously.

We had a great conversation, ranging from hermaphroditic worms to sex-changing fish, and from gender stereotypes to intersex humans. At times, I pushed back. But I learned a lot throughout the conversation. I hope you do too.

Thoughts about Fuentes’s argument? Or my takes? Share them at onhumans.substack.com. You'll also find more links to dig deeper.

Support the show: patreon.com/onhumans

MENTIONS

Agustín Fuentes: Sex is a Spectrum; Creative Spark; Race, Monogamy, and Other Lies They Told You

Yuval Noah Harari: Sapiens, A Brief History of Humankind

Jared Diamond: Guns, Germs, and Steel

Steven Pinker: How the Mind Works

Sara Blaffer Hrdy: Father Time (see episode in April 2023)

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