In this intimate conversation with host Lisa Konicki, Colbie Caillat reflects on her musical journey —from why she wanted to reimagine her hit songs to being turned down by American Idol. “I was nervous, and I just didn't have the look,” Caillat says. “I didn't have any of the things. And so, 10 seconds in, they were like, ‘Next!’" Caillat also opens up about the moment she and a young Taylor Swift wrote “Breathe,” a collaboration that would earn them a GRAMMY. “She was so sweet,” Caillat says. “She brought me a gift. I was just so impressed at her confidence and her talent and her wisdom in general, but especially at that age. I was blown away.” The episode dives into Caillat’s experience recording This Time Around with friends Maren Morris, Walker Hayes, Gavin DeGraw, and Hillary Scottof Lady A, and how the Malibu, California native found herself in Nashville, Tennessee, and was drawn to country music. She also shares the one thing fans might be surprised to learn about her, giving listeners a glimpse into the woman behind the music.