Is it truly possible to forgive someone who’s not sorry—and should you ever reconcile? In this powerful episode of Compassion International's Nuance series, Rachel Grohl (host of the Hearing Jesus podcast) and Kiwi Vallejo Cook (Compassion alumni and physical therapist) share raw, unfiltered insights on the messy, painful process of forgiveness and emotional healing.

Together, they discuss how past pain can trap us in cycles of shame, how therapy can be a powerful tool in God's hands, and why forgiveness is not a one-time event, but a lifelong journey. Kiwi bravely opens up about the cultural stigma around therapy in her background and how she and her husband are breaking generational chains by seeking help. Rachel shares how God used Christian counseling to unlock freedom she never thought possible.

If you’ve ever wondered why healing feels so elusive—or if faith and therapy can really coexist—this conversation is for you. It’s vulnerable, hopeful, and fiercely honest. Because sometimes the only way forward is by facing the past with grace.

Subscribe to Compassion International's new series for more heart-healing, spirit-strengthening episodes like this.

And, get more great content and resources to help you put your faith in action at Compassion.com/UntoJesus.