In this episode of Not What I Expected, Liam Chennells is joined by Conrad Lennard, who leads business development for security solutions across the UK and Ireland at Mastercard. From tearing his ACL at Lord’s to studying geography at Durham, attending Stanford, and navigating a pivot from insurance to AI fraud detection, Conrad’s journey is full of unexpected turns. He shares insights on collective resilience, machine learning in fraud prevention, and what it’s really like working for one of the world’s most powerful brands. It’s a conversation about people, risk, and purpose—with a few laughs along the way.

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