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Not All Business
Not All Business
12 episodes
2 days ago
Because at work, it's not all business. We're Heather & Blakely, two rival tech CEOs turned friends, hosting real conversations about the messy reality of leadership. Think of us as Sex Ed for Leadership—discussing the topics and answering all the questions professionals are too afraid to ask, with occasional reality checks from our brilliant producer, Clay. Join us for serious insights. Slightly less serious hosts. New episodes every week!
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Because at work, it's not all business. We're Heather & Blakely, two rival tech CEOs turned friends, hosting real conversations about the messy reality of leadership. Think of us as Sex Ed for Leadership—discussing the topics and answering all the questions professionals are too afraid to ask, with occasional reality checks from our brilliant producer, Clay. Join us for serious insights. Slightly less serious hosts. New episodes every week!
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Quiet Cracking: Why Burnout Now Hits at Age 25
Not All Business
1 hour 11 minutes 1 second
1 week ago
Quiet Cracking: Why Burnout Now Hits at Age 25

It's a milestone episode! We made it to Episode 10—putting us in the top 10% of all podcasts. To celebrate, Blakely and Heather tackle a phenomenon that's costing businesses $438 billion annually: quiet cracking.

Guest Maureen "Mo" Berkner Boyt, founder of C2IQ and 2023 Colorado Technology Association Entrepreneur of the Year, explains what happens when high-performing women (and men) hold their families and businesses together through crisis after crisis—until they break.

The average age of burnout is now 25. Two-thirds of workers feel lonely. And with AI anxiety keeping people in jobs they hate ("job hugging"), the workplace mental health crisis is reaching a breaking point. But this episode isn't just about the problem—it's about solutions.


In this episode, we explore:

  • Why we get "really dumb" during change (the neuroscience is wild)

  • How C2IQ makes human risk as measurable as financial risk

  • The imposter syndrome hack that takes 10 minutes in your next meeting

  • Why "find your passion" is actually terrible advice

  • Mo's journey from trying to be a "middle-aged white guy" to rocking her moxie

  • Why growth at all costs is destroying your people (and what to do instead)

  • The real story behind Mo's 31-year marriage (hint: they re-up annually)


**Plus honest conversations about:**

  • Blakely's burnout stories—from $50 face cream bribes to corporate bidding wars

  • Heather's under-the-desk crying after firing a married couple

  • Why being "gritty as f***" isn't always enough

  • The loneliness epidemic at work (yes, people want AI buddies)


Also worth watching for:

  • Clay's hair that could literally star in the musical Hair (real pictures included!)

  • Blakely's senior photo featuring the iconic wave AND claw combo

  • Heather's observation about Casa Bonita's stalactites looking... anatomically suggestive (picture included!)

  • Heather's bizarre NyQuil-induced dream about nursing a man-baby on a train—seriously, if anyone can interpret this, please reach out


Whether you're a leader pushing your team harder out of fear, a high performer who's lost the joy, or someone watching the spark fade in colleagues around you—this episode offers both validation and practical strategies.

New episodes every week. Subscribe for more unfiltered conversations about leadership, growth, and the messy human side of business.


LINKS & MENTIONS

  • Maureen “Mo” Berkner Boyt on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/maureenberknerboyt/

  • C2IQ: Making human risk measurable - https://c2iq.io/

  • Podcast Statistics: Top 10% milestone reference - https://riverside.com/blog/podcast-statistics

  • KPMG Workplace Friendship Study: Friends at work research - https://kpmg.com/us/en/media/news/friends-at-work-2025.html

  • $438 Billion Cost of Quiet Cracking: Fortune article on workplace burnout and disengagement - https://fortune.com/2025/08/18/quiet-cracking-workplace-culture-employees-burnout-disengagement-mental-health-billions-business-loss-managers-ai-promotions/

  • Casa Bonita Restaurant: https://www.casabonitadenver.com/

  • South Park "Casa Bonita" Episode: Season 7, Episode 11

  • ¡Casa Bonita Mi Amor! Documentary: Available on Paramount+ - https://www.paramountplus.com/shows/casa-bonita-mi-amor/

  • Office Space (1999): Classic workplace comedy film

  • CU Women's Basketball: Proud sponsor of CU WBB - https://www.instagram.com/cubuffswbb/

  • Submit your sticky situations: https://notall.biz/

  • Can you interpret Heather's dream? Send us your analysis!


We want to hear YOUR sticky situations! Share your story at https://notall.biz/home#situations and we’ll tackle it in an upcoming episode.

Not All Business
Because at work, it's not all business. We're Heather & Blakely, two rival tech CEOs turned friends, hosting real conversations about the messy reality of leadership. Think of us as Sex Ed for Leadership—discussing the topics and answering all the questions professionals are too afraid to ask, with occasional reality checks from our brilliant producer, Clay. Join us for serious insights. Slightly less serious hosts. New episodes every week!