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Not All Business
Not All Business
12 episodes
2 days ago
Because at work, it's not all business. We're Heather & Blakely, two rival tech CEOs turned friends, hosting real conversations about the messy reality of leadership. Think of us as Sex Ed for Leadership—discussing the topics and answering all the questions professionals are too afraid to ask, with occasional reality checks from our brilliant producer, Clay. Join us for serious insights. Slightly less serious hosts. New episodes every week!
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Because at work, it's not all business. We're Heather & Blakely, two rival tech CEOs turned friends, hosting real conversations about the messy reality of leadership. Think of us as Sex Ed for Leadership—discussing the topics and answering all the questions professionals are too afraid to ask, with occasional reality checks from our brilliant producer, Clay. Join us for serious insights. Slightly less serious hosts. New episodes every week!
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From Boardroom Breakdown to Pole Position
Not All Business
1 hour 21 seconds
2 months ago
From Boardroom Breakdown to Pole Position

What happens when your executive coach tells you your physical presence "needs a lot of work"? For former TaskRay COO Jamie Cole, that brutal feedback led to an unexpected journey that revolutionized her leadership style.


In this candid conversation, Jamie shares how discovering pole dancing transformed her from a post-divorce, confidence-shattered executive into a fearless leader who commanded every room she entered. But this isn't about fitness trends or breaking taboos—it's about the direct connection between physical confidence and professional presence.


In this episode, Jamie reveals:

  • Why her executive coach's harsh feedback was the wake-up call she needed

  • How pole dancing taught her the crucial difference between sensuality and sexuality

  • The moment she realized her physical transformation was reshaping her leadership

  • How her newfound confidence helped transform her entire company culture

  • Why finding your "power practice" doesn't have to be conventional


We also dive into the inclusive community she discovered, the social stigmas she navigated, and how embodying physical strength translated into professional fearlessness. Plus, Jamie explains why she believes everyone needs to find their own version of this practice.


Whether your power source is pole dancing, rock climbing, or something completely different, this episode challenges how we think about confidence, presence, and authentic leadership.


Links + Mentions:

  • Jamie Cole Pole on IG

  • Rockstar Pole Fitness on IG

  • Melani Sanders on IG

  • “We Do Not Care” – NYT Article

  • Carolyn Keyes – Velocity

  • Keren Eldad on IG

    • Athena Wolf on Patreon


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    • Instagram: @notallbiz

    • YouTube: @notallbusiness

    Not All Business
    Because at work, it's not all business. We're Heather & Blakely, two rival tech CEOs turned friends, hosting real conversations about the messy reality of leadership. Think of us as Sex Ed for Leadership—discussing the topics and answering all the questions professionals are too afraid to ask, with occasional reality checks from our brilliant producer, Clay. Join us for serious insights. Slightly less serious hosts. New episodes every week!