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Normal Curves: Sexy Science, Serious Statistics
Regina Nuzzo and Kristin Sainani
21 episodes
1 week ago
Normal Curves is a podcast about sexy science & serious statistics. Ever try to make sense of a scientific study and the numbers behind it? Listen in to a lively conversation between two stats-savvy friends who break it all down with humor and clarity. Professors Regina Nuzzo of Gallaudet University and Kristin Sainani of Stanford University discuss academic papers journal club-style — except with more fun, less jargon, and some irreverent, PG-13 content sprinkled in. Join Kristin and Regina as they dissect the data, challenge the claims, and arm you with tools to assess scientific studies on your own.
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Normal Curves is a podcast about sexy science & serious statistics. Ever try to make sense of a scientific study and the numbers behind it? Listen in to a lively conversation between two stats-savvy friends who break it all down with humor and clarity. Professors Regina Nuzzo of Gallaudet University and Kristin Sainani of Stanford University discuss academic papers journal club-style — except with more fun, less jargon, and some irreverent, PG-13 content sprinkled in. Join Kristin and Regina as they dissect the data, challenge the claims, and arm you with tools to assess scientific studies on your own.
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The Backfire Effect: Can fact-checking make false beliefs stronger?
Normal Curves: Sexy Science, Serious Statistics
58 minutes
3 months ago
The Backfire Effect: Can fact-checking make false beliefs stronger?

Can correcting misinformation make it worse? The “backfire effect” claims that debunking myths can actually make false beliefs stronger. We dig into the evidence — from ghost studies to headline-making experiments — to see if this psychological plot twist really holds up. Along the way, we unpack interaction effects, randomization red flags, and what happens when bad citations take on a life of their own. Plus: dirty talk analogies, statistical sleuthing, and why “familiarity” might be your brain’s sneakiest trick.


Statistical topics

  • Computational replication
  • Replication
  • Block randomization
  • Problems in randomization
  • Bad citing
  • Interactions in regression


Unpublished "Ghost Paper"

  • PDF retrieved from the Wayback Machine



Citations

  • Nyhan B, Reifler J. When corrections fail: The persistence of political misperceptions. Political Behavior. 2010;32:303–330.
  • Skurnik I, Yoon C, Schwarz N. “Myths & Facts” about the flu: Health education campaigns can reduce vaccination intentions. Unpublished manuscript, PDF posted separately.
  • Schwarz N, Sanna LJ, Skurnik I, et al. Metacognitive experiences and the intricacies of setting people straight: Implications for debiasing and public information campaigns. Advances in Experimental Social Psychology. 2007;39:127–61.
  • Lewandowsky S, Ecker UKH, Seifert CM, et al. Misinformation and its correction: Continued influence and successful debiasing. Psychological Science in the Public Interest. 2012;13:106–131.
  • Pluviano S, Watt C, Della Sala S. Misinformation lingers in memory: Failure of three pro-vaccination strategies. PLOS ONE. 2017;12:e0181640.
  • Pluviano S, Watt C, Ragazzini G, et al. Parents’ beliefs in misinformation about vaccines are strengthened by pro‑vaccine campaigns. Cognitive Processing. 2019;20:325–31.
  • Wood T, Porter E. The elusive backfire effect: Mass attitudes’ steadfast factual adherence. Political Behavior. 2019;41:135–63.
  • Nyhan B, Porter E, Reifler J, Wood TJ. Taking fact-checks literally but not seriously? The effects of journalistic fact-checking on factual beliefs and candidate favorability. Political Behavior. 2020;42:939–60.
  • Ecker UKH, Hogan JL, Lewandowsky S. Reminders and repetition of misinformation: Helping or hindering its retraction? Journal of Applied Research in Memory and Cognition. 2017;6:185–92.
  • Swire B, Ecker UKH, Lewandowsky S. The role of familiarity in correcting inaccurate information. Journal of Experimental Psychology: Learning, Memory, and Cognition. 2017;43:1948–61.
  • Ecker UKH, O’Donnell M, Ang LC, et al. The effectiveness of short- and long-format retractions on misinformation belief and recall. British Journal of Psychology. 2020;111:36–54.
  • Ecker UKH, Sharkey CXM, Swire-Thompson B. Correcting vaccine misinformation: A failure to replicate familiarity or fear-driven backfire effects. PLOS ONE. 2023;18:e0281140.
  • Cook J, Lewandowsky S. The Debunking Handbook. University of Queensland. 2011.
  • Lewandowsky S, Cook J, Ecker UKH, et al. The Debunking Handbook 2020. Available at https://sks.to/db2020. 
  • Swire‑Thompson B, DeGutis J, Lazer D. Searching for the backfire effect: Measurement and design considerations. Journal of Applied Research in Memory and Cognition. 2020;9:286–99.

Kristin and Regina’s online courses: 

  • Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding  
  • Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis 
  • Medical Statistics Certificate Program  
  • Writing in the Sciences 
  • Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program 


Programs that we teach in:

  • Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program 


Find us on:

Kristin -  LinkedIn & Twitter/X

Regina - LinkedIn & ReginaNuzzo.com

  • (00:00) -
  • (00:00) - Intro
  • (02:05) - What is the backfire effect?
  • (03:55) - The 2010 paper that panicked fact-checkers
  • (06:25) - The ghost paper what it really said
  • (12:35) - Study design of the 2010 paper
  • (18:25) - Results of the 2010 paper
  • (19:55) - Crossover interactions, regression models, and intimate talk
  • (25:24) - Missing data and cleaning your bedroom analogy
  • (28:11) - Fact-checking the fact-checking paper
  • (33:07) - Replication and pushing the data to the limit
  • (36:59) - The purported backfire effect spreads
  • (41:06) - The 2017 paper that got a lot of attention
  • (44:25) - Statistical sleuthing the 2017 paper
  • (48:51) - Will researchers double down on their earlier conclusions?
  • (54:46) - A review paper sums it all up
  • (56:00) - Wrap up, rating, and methodological morals


Normal Curves: Sexy Science, Serious Statistics
Normal Curves is a podcast about sexy science & serious statistics. Ever try to make sense of a scientific study and the numbers behind it? Listen in to a lively conversation between two stats-savvy friends who break it all down with humor and clarity. Professors Regina Nuzzo of Gallaudet University and Kristin Sainani of Stanford University discuss academic papers journal club-style — except with more fun, less jargon, and some irreverent, PG-13 content sprinkled in. Join Kristin and Regina as they dissect the data, challenge the claims, and arm you with tools to assess scientific studies on your own.