
I talk with Michael W. Clune about White Out: The Secret Life of Heroin, his memoir about his heroin addiction and his recovery. His writing is experiential, poetic, philosophical, and dwells on the liminal. Clune defamiliarizes experiences and reassembles them with new language. He also puts language to experiences that haven’t been entered yet into the collective imagination. We discuss the rhetoric of perception, unpeeling perception away from language, Candy Land, and Don Quixote.