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Non-naive Naiveness
Tianzhen Yang
11 episodes
4 days ago
Non-Naive Naiveness is a podcast hosted by Tianzhen Yang—China’s #1 podcaster and the founder of one of the country’s most influential talent agencies. In this show, Tianzhen speaks honestly—sometimes with close friends, sometimes alone—about the things we usually avoid: complicated feelings, uncomfortable truths, emotional contradictions, and what it takes to live with clarity in a noisy world. It's not about being perfect. It’s about being honest, even when honesty is hard. Stories of being naive. Stories of growing up. Stories of facing the world as it is—and still daring to feel.
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Non-Naive Naiveness is a podcast hosted by Tianzhen Yang—China’s #1 podcaster and the founder of one of the country’s most influential talent agencies. In this show, Tianzhen speaks honestly—sometimes with close friends, sometimes alone—about the things we usually avoid: complicated feelings, uncomfortable truths, emotional contradictions, and what it takes to live with clarity in a noisy world. It's not about being perfect. It’s about being honest, even when honesty is hard. Stories of being naive. Stories of growing up. Stories of facing the world as it is—and still daring to feel.
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#09-Turning 40: A Funeral, Love, Desire, and Finding Meaning
Non-naive Naiveness
50 minutes 56 seconds
3 months ago
#09-Turning 40: A Funeral, Love, Desire, and Finding Meaning

January 2025 is a really special month for me — I turned 40. As this milestone approached, I found myself facing again the anxiety I felt at 29. Back then, I was lost, knowing I’d be entering a new phase at 30 but unsure how to do it. Eventually, I decided to start a business. Now, at 40, that same anxiety has returned — but this time, it’s about who I really am. I realize I’m going through a kind of “shedding” process. I’m no longer just thinking about business goals; I truly want to do something meaningful for society.

So in this episode, I want to share my recent reflections on life’s purpose, love and desire, even life and death — hoping to bring you some new perspectives and feelings.


00:35 — Approaching 40, anxiety returns;

03:43 — Flashback to my lively, dramatic 25th birthday party;

06:26 — Gifts from friends pooled together;

08:01 — Inspiration from Wuzhen Theatre Festival — planning a “funeral” for my 40th;

11:19 — Destiny has reasons, but mastering yourself can raise your fate’s ceiling;

13:18 — Why is 40 called the “age of no confusion”?;

14:29 — Launching a “personal board meeting” for life;

15:57 — Exploring “how to use yourself”;

17:50 — Reflecting on my podcast’s original purpose and turning to social value;

18:04 — Why social purpose matters;

19:36 — Friend Tuobuhua’s poetic description of me;

20:25 — The vulnerability of crabs shedding their shells — a necessary growth process;

21:53 — How to reduce internal conflict — whoever apologizes grows;

22:40 — Growth is about self-awareness, not just learning skills;

23:03 — How to get along with yourself;

23:57 — Healthy relationships are between two whole individuals, not “finding your other half”;

24:42 — Loving someone without expecting anything back — but first loving yourself fully;

25:44 — Life driven by two forces: desire and love;

26:46 — Desire isn’t negative — it can bear good fruit;

28:50 — Facing and distinguishing your love and desire;

31:59 — Becoming an independent person;

32:36 — Pure love that doesn’t expect reciprocation;

34:19 — Experiencing “no-self” in religious practice;

36:35 — Being called “Yang Youli” (Always Right Yang) — but no arguing this time;

38:16 — Avoid comparing lives — everyone’s journey is unique;

39:43 — I’m neither arrogant nor humble — I want to be real;

41:38 — The inevitability of “darkness” in human nature — who are we really?;

45:10 — From “experience seeker” to “long-term thinker”;

48:27 — The beauty of life lies in its finiteness;

49:42 — Life’s richness comes from beginnings and endings, ins and outs.


Background Music: “Beauty In The Mundane”

Non-naive Naiveness
Non-Naive Naiveness is a podcast hosted by Tianzhen Yang—China’s #1 podcaster and the founder of one of the country’s most influential talent agencies. In this show, Tianzhen speaks honestly—sometimes with close friends, sometimes alone—about the things we usually avoid: complicated feelings, uncomfortable truths, emotional contradictions, and what it takes to live with clarity in a noisy world. It's not about being perfect. It’s about being honest, even when honesty is hard. Stories of being naive. Stories of growing up. Stories of facing the world as it is—and still daring to feel.