Welcome to the first video episode of the Non-Billable Hours Podcast! In this exciting debut, Odette sits down with Carolyn McKeen, a brilliant litigator and one of Odette's law school classmates, to chat law school litigation competitions, discuss Carolyn's transition from public health to law, and share insights into juggling a career in civil litigation with travel, running, and learning to fly (literally!).✈️ Recorded on International Women's Day, this episode is a tribute to the strength and achievements of women in the legal profession.  Odette and Carolyn talk about breaking down the stereotypes, and how you can be a 'serious' lawyer, while still embracing who you are both in and out of the office. Whether you're a lawyer or just curious about the life of one, this episode offers an honest look at the human side of practicing law. 👂🏼Listen as always to audio on Apple or Spotify, and now you can also find us on YouTube at @NonBillableHoursPod🎥 If you want to follow Carolyn on her legal and travel adventures: www.linkedin.com/in/carolyn-mckeen Instagram: @wanderingcarolyn & @mscarolynmck