Episode 50 of the No Such Thing as Normal podcast with Natalie Hayes and Jess McKeown is giving *friend chat* as we catch up on the fantasy fiction books we are reading and LOVING, and describing how indulging ourselves in this genre has affected our intuitive connection. Jess then talks us through a new way she learned to use tarot cards recently (you might resonate more with this way than others), we brain dump her next possible *spicy* entrepreneurial pursuits, and wrap up by dissecting the ways Natalie has been noticing that she unconsciously emotionally monitors her baby, and how that can create anxiety for everyone involved.