In episode #45 of No Such Thing as Normal, Natalie Hayes and Jess McKeown cover the sensitive topic of having postpartum depression vs. having big feelings and experiencing a change in your emotional state after having a baby. There's a difference, but not everyone is aware of it! Natalie also talks about self-regulation with a baby, and how sometimes your baby helps your nervous system feel safe, too. And though we swear this isn't becoming a postpartum podcast (thought maybe it will?), we dive into birth trauma and how that shows up postpartum, too.

We're also so excited to support Jess and her five years in business as a Spirit Baby Medium. She is giving away five free sessions each Friday in June to thank her community and celebrate this milestone. If you want to enter the contest, check out her pinned post on Instagram @mcjaguar.

And we end the episode by channeling audience questions with a very surprising answer from the Spirit Babies! If you want your question to be answered on the podcast, you can submit to the Stories post at @nosuchthingasnormalpod or send an email to nosuchthingasnormalpod@gmail.com.