In Episode 32 of the No Such Thing as Normal pod with Natalie Hayes and Jess McKeown, Natalie finally announces her pregnancy, Jess opens up about her experiences with therapy, and we both share some signs that the healing work you're doing is WORKING. Natalie gets really honest in this episode, sharing the intimate details of their unconventional conception (for the 10th time), what they did differently that made it successful (NOT medical advice), what her experience with the first trimester has truly been like, and how she felt unsupported by the western medical system. Jess then shares what she's been working through with therapy, breaking down triggers and signs you or someone close to you *could* be dysregulated, and provides a couple of ways to help re-regulate your nervous system. We wrap up this extra-vulnerable conversation with Jess channeling some truths about the collective and physical discomforts of pregnancy, and chat about different ways you'll be able to tell that all the work you've been doing to heal yourself is working!