The brilliant social media stars The Kabs Family (Chan and Tay) join Louise and Hannah to talk about their journey to baby number four, the pressures of modern parenting, and how they went from nervous teenagers on a bus to YouTube superstars!

Tay confesses he had to do a full presentation to convince Chan to have a fourth child, and now he's waiting on her hand and foot. From getting her McDonald's deliveries to being her "acts of service" love language. The conversation quickly turns to the infamous Push Present; Chan has been dropping heavy hints, but Tay genuinely doesn't know what this trendy social media custom is!

We dive into the chaos of family life, including the incredible story of how they met: Tay, nervous in Year 7, had to get his friend to speak to Chan's friend just to get her number after seeing her on the bus and they've been together ever since! Now, with kids aged 16, 8, and 6, they're preparing to go back to the newborn stage.

Chan opens up about the difficulty of her pregnancies (always being sick and nauseous) and the anxiety that comes with being considered a "geriatric mum" by the hospital.

Plus, you'll hearTay confessing his ultimate parenting fail: completely forgetting his newborn son when leaving the house, spoiling teenage daughters, and toddler tantrums

Meanwhile, Louise and Hannah tackle their own chaos: Louise's arachnophobia coming back with a vengeance over a tiny Lego spider, and Hannah's humiliating moment when her daughter had a tantrum and kept loudly asking for a "dick" (stick) in public!

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No Parental Guidance—the unfiltered, laugh-out-loud parenting podcast that’s the antidote to the impossibly perfect world of Instagram parenting.

Hosted by the brilliantly funny Louise Boyce and Hannah East, No Parental Guidance is a safe space for real mums to talk openly and hilariously about the chaos, guilt, and of course joys of parenthood.

From giggles to honest confessions, this is a parenting podcast for those who love their kids but also love to keep it real.

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