Charlie and Kate talk to BuzzFeed politics reporter Darren Sands about Trump's culture war with the NFL and how the kneeling debate has transcended its origins as a police brutality protest. Then they're joined by senior technology reporter Alex Kantrowitz to break down Facebook's awful few weeks in the spotlight over Russian interference. And finally, Kate asks Charlie about the (now-quiet) pro-Trump media and why he's having some problems writing about the trolls.

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