There is unexpected life in places you will probably never see. Under water, on the seabed of the North Sea, and even on deserted oil rigs. How can we support that life? And what happens in other parts of the world when we build wind turbines here at sea?   In the third episode Wineke dives into the North Sea with marine researcher Fiona Middleton and socio-environmental researcher Darko Lagunas. Darko is part of the Embassy of the North Sea: a group of artists, researchers, lawyers and activists that want the North Sea to become a real actor by listening to the political voices of things, plants, animals, microbes and people in and around the North Sea. Fiona Middleton studies marine life everywhere. Wineke talked to her on the phone to discuss her research of a cluster of five decommissioned oil rigs just off the coast of the Netherlands.