In our fourth episode we are trying to have a conversation about race, with Nnandi Lecointe, a black UK-based trainee gestalt therapist. Nnandi talks about the legacy of being the daughter of one of the Mangrove 9, as  featured in the recently released BBC/Amazon Prime film.
Trying to make sense of our male whiteness and our own racism, proved to be hard and sticky on a radio show. So much we could say about it here and so little that wouldn't be food for projections. So better you have a listen and find out yourself. 

Safe to say the three of us continued the process after the show, feeling the burden of this big topic we're trying to bring on this small show. 

We were blessed to have some music played to us, a live performance of Bach’s Sarabande in C minor by Chris O’Malley. What a welcome counter balance to the tension when addressing race. 

Listen for yourself and enjoy!

Thomas and John.