In episode 4, special guest John Kiweewa, who plays a dual-role as both a university professor and a practicing therapist, discusses the fascinating St. John Fisher Mental Health Project that he has been working on with Art For Anarchists to help trauma sufferers express themselves, and start their healing process.

Topics covered include:  00:10 Refinable Launches 00:33 John Kiweewa 04:15 Trauma 06:53 Psychosocial Support 08:51 Trauma - Further Discussed 11:45 Symptoms Become Diagnosis / Oversimplified 12:04 Not Properly Diagnosed / Treating the Symptoms, not the Cause 14:20 Survive and Thrive 15:08 Shame – felt when we violate the social norms we believe in 16:06 Intangible Things 18:39 More on Shame and Shaming 19:11 The Importance of Narrative in the Public Space 21:39 Symbols and Metaphors 24:21 Externalization 27:12 Few Windows to See What is going on Internally with Anybody 27:44 Trauma - Revisited 28:40 Prompts - Used in Therapy 29:17 Art Therapy  33:03 Homelessness 34:25 Transforming Stigma into Stimulation 37:38 Making Mental Health Visible in Society 38:15 Stimulate Conversations and Dialogue 39:41 Symbolism and Metaphor - Revisited 40:59 No Predetermined Interpretations 42:07 Bearing Witness 42:59 How to Structure the Prompts 44:35 Mental Health Challenges as Lived Experiences 46:30 To Bear Witness - Revisited 48:28 What is art? 49:13 A Therapist is a Traveller on a Journey, not Merely on a Trip 52:28 Externalization - Revisited 54:19 Mental Health Disorders are now Seen as Identities 57:09 Shattering Prisons of Privacy