Summary
News and macro discussion
The episode begins with a breakdown of the biggest story in tech: Mark Zuckerberg’s billion-dollar attempt to poach AI talent from his competitors: Human Machines Lab (Mira Murati), OpenAI and Anthropic. Nish and Frackers discuss how Zuckerberg’s superintelligence memo was inspired by, if not copied, from a character.ai memo from several years ago.
They reflect on how investors reward execution and momentum over originality or ethics. Other headlines include strong earnings by Apple and Microsoft and Amazon’s weak AWS numbers. In crypto, the CoinDCX hack is revealed to be an insider job involving $44 million in stolen assets, with on-chain sleuth ZachXBT helping expose it. The SEC’s “Project Crypto” is also discussed as a potential shift toward lighter regulation, although the lack of clarity left markets unmoved.
Market commentary and token picks
The middle segment covers how traditional markets and crypto reacted to this mix of strong earnings and regulatory uncertainty. Michiel points out that Ethereum still hasn’t broken its previous all-time high, which he sees as a signal of weakness despite increased buying from large entities like Ether Machine. Nish notes Tether’s reported $4.9 billion profit in Q2, noting that the figure is unaudited.
Trading challenge and portfolio results
In the final part of the episode, Nish and Michiel reveal the results of their increasingly competitive trading competition. Nish went full degen, flipping $30 into $240 on the AIR token before swapping into another meme coin called A$$ and ending at $135. He describes the emotional rollercoaster of near-instant profits followed by losses, calling it a full round-trip. Michiel took a more conservative approach, sticking with a mix of Nvidia, Broadcom and Bitcoin, and ended the week with a 17 percent gain since the start of the competition in early June. They compare strategies, risk tolerance and the psychology of trading in volatile markets. The segment ends with reflections on why most traders underperform even during bull markets, and a reminder by Nish that the challenge is about learning, not outperforming each other. Michiel is not buying it.
Chapter list
00:00 – Intro and episode preview
Overview of topics including Meta, CoinDCX hack, SEC regulation and the trading competition
01:30 – Zuckerberg’s $1B AI poaching strategy
Discussion on Meta offering $5 to $10 million per engineer and the ethics behind it
04:00 – Meta’s plagiarized superintelligence memo
Breakdown of Zuck memo’s similarities to character.ai and what it reveals about Meta culture
06:20 – Big Tech earnings and market reactions
Apple, Amazon and Microsoft results and how the market is responding
08:10 – Circle and Figma IPO chatter
Comments on IPO valuations and investor psychology
09:30 – CoinDCX hack and insider involvement
How $44 million was drained from an Indian exchange by insiders, and how ZachXBT helped trace it
12:00 – SEC’s “Project Crypto” grace period
Discussion on a possible regulatory shift and its unclear impact on token markets
14:30 – Ethereum’s weak price action despite good news
Why ETH still hasn’t hit a new ATH and what that means for investor confidence
17:00 – Tether’s $4.9B quarterly profit
Questions around how Tether generates its profit and whether it’s sustainable or lega
20:00 – Trading competition recap begins
Nish explains how he turned $30 into $240 and then back to $135 using AIR and A$$
23:00 – Michiel’s conservative portfolio performance
25:00 – Risk and psychology in crypto investing