This podcast is about designing digital experiences Colorado Tour 2/3 Introducing Dave Skiba Today I get to talk with an old colleague and friend and great supporter of my innovation and leisure life and was instrumental to my 2 US patents during a previous time we worked together. David Skiba is a true innovator and as you know if you have listened to this podcast I always ask my guests about innovation and what this means to them. Dave holds over 100 US patents and has more in line. For over 10 years he has been busy learning, experimenting and innovating in the digital communication space. He and I were early acolytes in social media and introducing this to businesses. Today Dave is Head of Product at Koopid. Koopid is a digital communication and automation company and in full disclosure, I do work with them from time to time, so apologize any bias. As I learned from another interview guest a few weeks back, James Brown at Smart Communications, that innovation or transformation is iterative, always moving forward. That is where this conversation goes and we will certainly come back together at some point and see how wrong or right we were. Updates / News This is another interview I conducted on my Colorado tour in September 2021. As a biker/podcaster I do commit to a challenge of biking to my guests, sometimes causing my ability of producing a quality podcast due to the challenges of biking, weather and others. My first interview with Ajay was during new heat records being recorded in Boulder Colorado and my relatively short ride to him and back had me totally cooked. It was Uber Eats for me as I was not moving any more after that day. Here I am only a few days later on another bike at 10000 feet with little oxygen and tired legs still wanting to talk to people. Why do I do it? Through my recent conversations I am beginning to stretch out where my interests in learning what people are doing with digital. During my conversation with Ajay and digital signage we talked about the importance of non-verbal communication and the role it has in creating positive experiences. This has me wondering, where is the relationship between communications and experiences and where does digital play a role. Questions #1 After my interview with Ajay recently where we talked about the nonverbal communication also in the digital space, what is the relationship between communications and experiences and where does digital play a role? #2 Innovation during lockdown. digital times change the way innovating works? #3 Back in early 2018 I interviewed you and you spoke about the "singular focus" you have at Koopid, has it remained that way? #4 You and I had a standing Innovation call most weeks for more than 8 years. Let’s talk innovation now. We are both working in the digital experience or communication space. We have worked in Organisations wanting to make great leaps and bounds. In my interview with James Brown from XXX he talked about innovation being iterative. Should we be focused on smaller iterative steps along the progress line or are there any larger leaps to be expected? #5 What does 'innovation' mean to you?