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Newsletter & Email Growth: Growth In Reverse
Chenell Basilio and Dylan Redekop
54 episodes
1 day ago
Growth In Reverse is the must-listen podcast for anyone serious about growing an email list and turning a newsletter into a thriving business. Hosted by Chenell Basilio and Dylan Redekop, two leading voices in the newsletter space, this show pulls back the curtain on how today’s top newsletter operators actually grow and make money. Episodes include deep-dive teardowns of the strategies behind the most successful newsletters. You’ll hear how creators like Justin Welsh, Codie Sanchez, Sahil Bloom, and other creator founders are building loyal audiences and turning subscribers into revenue. Learn how they attract traffic, increase conversions, boost retention, and scale without burning out. Whether you're launching your first newsletter or refining your growth engine, Growth In Reverse gives you proven tactics you can use right away. From onboarding systems and referral programs to sponsorships and paid products, this podcast helps you grow faster and smarter. If you’re ready to stop guessing and start applying what works, tune in and learn how the best are building newsletters that last.
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Growth In Reverse is the must-listen podcast for anyone serious about growing an email list and turning a newsletter into a thriving business. Hosted by Chenell Basilio and Dylan Redekop, two leading voices in the newsletter space, this show pulls back the curtain on how today’s top newsletter operators actually grow and make money. Episodes include deep-dive teardowns of the strategies behind the most successful newsletters. You’ll hear how creators like Justin Welsh, Codie Sanchez, Sahil Bloom, and other creator founders are building loyal audiences and turning subscribers into revenue. Learn how they attract traffic, increase conversions, boost retention, and scale without burning out. Whether you're launching your first newsletter or refining your growth engine, Growth In Reverse gives you proven tactics you can use right away. From onboarding systems and referral programs to sponsorships and paid products, this podcast helps you grow faster and smarter. If you’re ready to stop guessing and start applying what works, tune in and learn how the best are building newsletters that last.
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Marketing
Business,
Entrepreneurship
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Your Newsletter Is Too Easy to Join — Here’s Why That’s a Problem
Newsletter & Email Growth: Growth In Reverse
31 minutes
4 months ago
Your Newsletter Is Too Easy to Join — Here’s Why That’s a Problem

“I love unsubscribes. Don’t be here if you don’t want to be here.”

It is insanely easy to subscribe to a newsletter—and even MULTIPLE newsletters all at once.

But is that a good thing? Should newsletter creators be more choosy when determining who signs up? We're diving into one of the most overlooked and under-discussed aspects of newsletter growth: friction.

Specifically, how adding friction—rather than eliminating it—can actually improve subscriber quality, open rates, and monetization.

This one’s a must-listen if you’re growing via referrals, recommendations, or paid ads—or if you’re cleaning your list and still not seeing better open rates.


→ Take your newsletter to the next level with GIR Pro >>

KEY TAKEAWAYS

  • Why the "low friction" mindset can lead to worse subscribers
  • What happened when Chenell got aggressive about cleaning her list
  • Backend vs. frontend friction: which is better and when
  • Building a false double opt-in to retain more good subscribers
  • Why double opt-in purgatory can kill 20–40% of your growth
  • How paid ads can inflate list size but tank your quality
  • Form fields, first names, and checkbox tactics that work
  • The danger of creating “unsubscribe friction” (and why you shouldn’t use it)
  • What Dylan includes in every single broadcast to improve list health
  • Creative ideas like gated quizzes, segmenting checkboxes, and engagement-driven welcomes

LINKS MENTIONED

  • Workweek
  • beehiiv Creator Network
  • Kit Creator Network
  • Chris Hutchins → AllTheHacks.com
  • Ask us a question or submit a podcast topic idea: growthinreverse.com/questions
  • Check out the 30 Days of Growth FREE >>
  • 30 Days of Growth Course Pre-launch
  • Growth In Reverse PRO Community
  • Want your newsletter roasted? Submit it here. 
  • Check out past Growth In Reverse Deep Dives: https://growthinreverse.com/archive/

FOLLOW ON SOCIAL

  • Chenell: Twitter | LinkedIn | Substack
  • Dylan: LinkedIn | Bluesky

OUR NEWSLETTERS

  • growthinreverse.com
  • growthcurrency.net

Subscribe & Leave a Review:

If you found this episode valuable, take a second to rate and review us on Apple Podcasts or Spotify! It helps more newsletter creators find the show. Plus, if you submit a review, you’ll get priority for your own newsletter roast!

Thanks to Tim Forkin for editing these episodes.

Newsletter & Email Growth: Growth In Reverse
Growth In Reverse is the must-listen podcast for anyone serious about growing an email list and turning a newsletter into a thriving business. Hosted by Chenell Basilio and Dylan Redekop, two leading voices in the newsletter space, this show pulls back the curtain on how today’s top newsletter operators actually grow and make money. Episodes include deep-dive teardowns of the strategies behind the most successful newsletters. You’ll hear how creators like Justin Welsh, Codie Sanchez, Sahil Bloom, and other creator founders are building loyal audiences and turning subscribers into revenue. Learn how they attract traffic, increase conversions, boost retention, and scale without burning out. Whether you're launching your first newsletter or refining your growth engine, Growth In Reverse gives you proven tactics you can use right away. From onboarding systems and referral programs to sponsorships and paid products, this podcast helps you grow faster and smarter. If you’re ready to stop guessing and start applying what works, tune in and learn how the best are building newsletters that last.