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Newsletter & Email Growth: Growth In Reverse
Chenell Basilio and Dylan Redekop
54 episodes
1 day ago
Growth In Reverse is the must-listen podcast for anyone serious about growing an email list and turning a newsletter into a thriving business. Hosted by Chenell Basilio and Dylan Redekop, two leading voices in the newsletter space, this show pulls back the curtain on how today’s top newsletter operators actually grow and make money. Episodes include deep-dive teardowns of the strategies behind the most successful newsletters. You’ll hear how creators like Justin Welsh, Codie Sanchez, Sahil Bloom, and other creator founders are building loyal audiences and turning subscribers into revenue. Learn how they attract traffic, increase conversions, boost retention, and scale without burning out. Whether you're launching your first newsletter or refining your growth engine, Growth In Reverse gives you proven tactics you can use right away. From onboarding systems and referral programs to sponsorships and paid products, this podcast helps you grow faster and smarter. If you’re ready to stop guessing and start applying what works, tune in and learn how the best are building newsletters that last.
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Growth In Reverse is the must-listen podcast for anyone serious about growing an email list and turning a newsletter into a thriving business. Hosted by Chenell Basilio and Dylan Redekop, two leading voices in the newsletter space, this show pulls back the curtain on how today’s top newsletter operators actually grow and make money. Episodes include deep-dive teardowns of the strategies behind the most successful newsletters. You’ll hear how creators like Justin Welsh, Codie Sanchez, Sahil Bloom, and other creator founders are building loyal audiences and turning subscribers into revenue. Learn how they attract traffic, increase conversions, boost retention, and scale without burning out. Whether you're launching your first newsletter or refining your growth engine, Growth In Reverse gives you proven tactics you can use right away. From onboarding systems and referral programs to sponsorships and paid products, this podcast helps you grow faster and smarter. If you’re ready to stop guessing and start applying what works, tune in and learn how the best are building newsletters that last.
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Marketing
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Entrepreneurship
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Recapping CEX 2025: Un-hyping AI, Community Moats, and the Future of Newsletters
Newsletter & Email Growth: Growth In Reverse
44 minutes
2 months ago
Recapping CEX 2025: Un-hyping AI, Community Moats, and the Future of Newsletters

The Growth Vault is LIVE: Chenell's brand-new course —The Growth Vault— is here. Filled with newsletter templates, growth strategies, and real examples you can implement at your own pace.


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“If content is king, AI is storming the castle." — Darren Vesterfelt, Mighty Networks

Chenell was just in Cleveland for the annual CEX conference. And she wasn't *just* in attendance—she was also a speaker!

So we're recapping the biggest lessons and takeaways from Chenell's experience at CEX (Content Entrepreneur Expo) — where she basically opened the conference with her keynote, traded notes with some content economy heavy hitters (like Jay Acunzo, Ann Handley, Mark Schaefer, Robert Rose), and soaked up the big trends.

We dig into why slowing down beats AI-first content, the power of community and IRL relationships, how to think about discovery vs. relationship platforms, and why some SEO pros are betting on social over search.  


KEY TAKEAWAYS

  • The case for “as slow as possible” content: let ideas marinate; don’t outsource your thinking to AI. 
  • How to use AI as an editor rather than a first-draft brain replacement—and why this matters more than ever. 
  • Driving audiences from discovery platforms → relationship platforms. 
  • Community is a durable moat when content sameness rises (AI is “storming the castle”). 
  • Social > Search (sometimes): comments from real humans can beat 10k empty pageviews. 
  • Testing ideas fast with social media—and how commenting sparks even more ideas.
  • IRL still trumps all: stages, dinners, and small masterminds create outsized serendipity. 
  • Are physical newsletters back? 
  • Should you try AI sobriety?

LINKS MENTIONED

  • CEX
  • Ann Handley
  • Jay Acunzo
  • Mark Schafer
  • Growth In Reverse PRO Community
  • The GIR Social Growth Challenge 
  • Get Chenell's brand-new course: The Growth Vault — newsletter templates, growth strategies, and real examples you can implement at your own pace.
  • Want your newsletter roasted? Submit it here. 
  • Ask us a question or submit a podcast topic idea: growthinreverse.com/questions
  • Check out past Growth In Reverse Deep Dives: https://growthinreverse.com/archive/

FOLLOW ON SOCIAL

  • Chenell: Twitter | LinkedIn | Substack
  • Dylan: LinkedIn | Bluesky

OUR NEWSLETTERS

  • growthinreverse.com
  • growthcurrency.net

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If you found this episode valuable, take a second to rate and review us on Apple Podcasts or Spotify! It helps more newsletter creators find the show. Plus, if you submit a review, you’ll get priority for your own newsletter roast!

Thanks to Tim Forkin for editing these episodes.

Newsletter & Email Growth: Growth In Reverse
Growth In Reverse is the must-listen podcast for anyone serious about growing an email list and turning a newsletter into a thriving business. Hosted by Chenell Basilio and Dylan Redekop, two leading voices in the newsletter space, this show pulls back the curtain on how today’s top newsletter operators actually grow and make money. Episodes include deep-dive teardowns of the strategies behind the most successful newsletters. You’ll hear how creators like Justin Welsh, Codie Sanchez, Sahil Bloom, and other creator founders are building loyal audiences and turning subscribers into revenue. Learn how they attract traffic, increase conversions, boost retention, and scale without burning out. Whether you're launching your first newsletter or refining your growth engine, Growth In Reverse gives you proven tactics you can use right away. From onboarding systems and referral programs to sponsorships and paid products, this podcast helps you grow faster and smarter. If you’re ready to stop guessing and start applying what works, tune in and learn how the best are building newsletters that last.