Today we're talking with Redux js maintainer Mark Erikson. Mark has been maintaining the Redux library for about five years, and has written an amazing amount of documentation and guide material. Redux is used in the majority of React apps, but folks have recently been questioning: is Redux still a tool I should use in 2020? It depends. We tease apart all of the different use-cases for redux: data-fetching, caching state, avoiding prop drilling and compare it the other tools in the ecosystem: apollo, mobx, recoil, hooks, and others. In this wide-ranging conversation we cover the history of Redux, tooling you can use to make your Redux code cleaner, and future plans. Also, Nate struggles to pronounce Redux. We hope you enjoy listening as much as we enjoyed talking with Mark.