This week’s guests are Chong-Won Lim and Bjoern Simski from Motorola: the brand bringing the flip phone back and reshaping how younger generations connect with tech.

Recorded in a unique setting: a flower shop in Berlin during Design Week. This episode dives into what it takes to compete with iOS, how Gen Z discovers and chooses products, and why storytelling is still the most powerful tool in marketing.

We talk brand positioning, customer retention, and how Motorola plans to stay relevant in an AI-powered future.