Ben sits down with Erin Kearns, Ph.D., NCITE director of law enforcement partnerships, and visiting scholar Dr. Adam Ghazi-Tehrani, Ph.D., associate professor of criminology and criminal justice at Indiana University. The two discuss their research into the similarities and differences in 1) the scholarship on, 2) the public conceptualization of, and 3) the public attitudes toward punishment for terrorism, hate crimes, and other forms of mass violence.  Note: the work discussed does not fall under the umbrella of NCITE-sanctioned research.