In this episode Serge and I talked about the founding of Wildcoast/Costasalvaje, their mission, their key programs (like protecting sea turtle nesting beaches in Mexico, mangroves, gray whale habitat, and coral reefs), barriers to conservation, the importance of blue mind, opportunities for nature based, blue carbon solutions for climate change, and the ups and downs of protecting wild places. Serge is a master storyteller and this conversation left me with both inspiration and hope for what’s possible.