What will Trump's foreign policy look like in his second term? Does it make sense for the president-elect to rail against "stupid, endless wars" and then nominate Florida Senator Marco Rubio--a neoconservative with great sympathy for endless wars--as Secretary of State? We discuss Trump's nominations for top national security posts, disagreements between Trump and establishment Republicans on America's role in the world and the proper approach to Ukraine and Russia, as well as schisms within the Make America Great Again Movement on how to deal with China. Cohosts Doug Bandow and Ying Ma are joined by Jacob Heilbrunn, editor of The National Interest, and Tom Switzer, executive director of the Centre for Independent Studies in Sydney.