The U.S. Senate just passed a bill to provide another $60 billion to Ukraine’s war effort against Russia. Is it in America’s national interest to continue arming Ukraine? Is Washington helping to stop autocracy and safeguard the U.S.-led world order, or is it risking nuclear confrontation with Moscow and an expansion of the war into Europe? And why has the Ukraine issue revealed such deep divisions on the Right?   In the first episode of this new foreign policy podcast, Ying Ma hosts a lively discussion with Stephen Bryen, a leading defense and technology expert; Doug Bandow, senior fellow at the CATO Institute; and Jacob Heilbrunn, editor of The National Interest.