Ep. 32 - From Frustration to Focus: Michael Ellis on Smarter Dog Training

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Nate Schoemer Dog Training Podcast

Nate Schoemer

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Join Nate Schoemer as he interviews top dog trainers—from behavior specialists and protection experts to authors, judges, and training school founders. Each episode offers expert advice on real training topics, followed by live Q&As where listeners can ask direct questions. You’ll also hear real virtual sessions solving common issues, plus unique follow-along obedience routines that simulate private lessons to help you train effectively. Whether you're a dog owner or aspiring trainer, this podcast gives you direct access to high-level training insights you can use right away.

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Ep. 32 - From Frustration to Focus: Michael Ellis on Smarter Dog Training

Nate Schoemer Dog Training Podcast

1 hour 23 minutes 11 seconds

1 month ago

Ep. 32 - From Frustration to Focus: Michael Ellis on Smarter Dog Training

Michael Ellis on the Most Overlooked Key to Dog Training: Engagement

In this wide-ranging conversation, world-renowned dog trainer Michael Ellis shares what he believes is the most overlooked key to successful dog training: engagement.

Before you can teach a dog what to learn, you first have to teach them how to learn—and that starts by creating motivation, attention, and buy-in. Whether you’re a dog owner, a new trainer, or a seasoned pro, this discussion will change the way you think about dogs, behavior, and obedience.

We cover:
• Why engagement is the foundation of all dog training
• How classical conditioning shapes behavior (often without us realizing it)
• The right and wrong way to use markers and rewards
• How to avoid common mistakes like overshadowing and learned irrelevance
• When to switch from continuous to intermittent reinforcement
• How to address behavior issues like fear, aggression, and anxiety
• The future of dog training and how science is reshaping the field

Learn more from Michael Ellis:
Michael Ellis School for Dog Trainers: https://michaelellisschool.com/
Membership Platform: https://michaelellisschool.com/membership/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@michaelellisschoolfordogtr6450
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100063534012479
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/michael_ellis_school/

Work with Nate Schoemer:
Online Course: From Novice to Pro: The Ultimate Guide to Dog Training
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⏱ Episode Breakdown:
00:00 – Engagement in Reward-Based Dog Training
06:35 – Measuring Dog Training Engagement
13:20 – Delayed Reward Timing in Dog Training
18:13 – Effective Dog Training Commands
26:24 – Intermittent Dog Training Strategies
27:43 – Effects of Continuous Rewards
36:16 – Evolving Dog Training Methods
41:51 – Evolving Dog Training Insights
46:09 – Training People for Dog Skills
51:48 – Dog Training: Beyond Protocols
58:09 – Effective Rewards for Anxious Dogs
01:01:26 – Pavlovian Interference in Dog Training
01:06:29 – Delayed Rewards in Dog Training
01:11:20 – Evolving Approach to Dog Training
01:19:55 – Michael Ellis Membership Launch
01:20:56 – Affordable Dog Training Access