In this episode, New Zealand musician Lexytron joins me to talk about the weather, what is the best kind of bread, and how we feel about the current state of the world. I add the word "sardonic" to my vocabulary, and we talk about what it's like having someone describe your music back to you. We debate which is the most sardonic band, which is the least sardonic band, and which Australian animals we think are most likely to eat us.