“An intelligent person takes in the facts, but a wise person listens to themselves and finds what truly fits.”
What does it mean to be intelligent, and what does it mean to be wise? In this episode, Theresa is joined by her son Luke for a heartfelt conversation about the differences between intelligence and wisdom, and how each one shapes the way we live, learn, and relate to others.
You’ll hear Luke reflect on his time as a student, the professors who modeled wisdom, and why learning to tune into our inner world and the people around us matters as much as any set of facts. They explore how being present, curious, and willing to integrate learning into daily life can move us closer to wisdom.
What you’ll learn:
→ How intelligence and wisdom show up differently in daily choices
→ Why self-awareness and reciprocity are signs of wisdom
→ The role of lifelong learning in becoming both informed and compassionate
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Episode Chapters
00:00 Welcome + today’s conversation
03:07 Intelligence vs wisdom
04:41 Defining wisdom through presence
10:25 Processing vs integrating information
14:48 Professors who modeled wisdom
20:49 Could they join the podcast?
25:05 Why outliers in research matter
38:47 The gorilla video and perception
40:26 Focus and awareness in daily life
41:42 Closing reflections
Topics we explore in this episode include:
intelligence vs wisdom, lifelong learning, personal growth and self-awareness, mindfulness in relationships, reciprocity in communication, compassionate teaching, curiosity and exploration
