Join us this week for a conversation with Carlos López the Global Programs Director of Magicians Without Borders, and our founder Tom Verner to talk about how  we navigate uncertainty, when you are in the social sector, let alone the the social magic sector, uncertainty is part of you everyday. In this conversation we want to explore how we've navigated this uncertainty with the added struggle of a global pandemic, and we will explore how our "magicians minds" help us navigate and innovate to create a future amongst this uncertainty.