In what is the final episode of The Jazz Colloquies podcast series, guest, Sandile Gontsana joins Areh in discussion of his time in London working as part of the Disney Lion King theatre production, this chat then leads to the (lack of) South African "theatre going culture".

Their chat also touches on the importance of music education, Sandile's time studying at the University of Cape Town with whom are now leading South African jazz artists, Sandile's personality and thIne importance of travelling and broadening one's world view and horizon.