Intermedia artist Phill Niblock discusses his early years in NY and the beginnings of his art making at Judson Church and the founding of the Experimental Intermedia Foundation by Elaine Summers. Phill discusses his thick, loud drones and microtones as we listen to Feed Corn Ear and Hurdy Hurry. He says, “What I am doing with my music is to produce something without rhythm or melody, by using many microtones that cause movements very, very slowly.”