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muckrAIkers
Jacob Haimes and Igor Krawczuk
18 episodes
3 weeks ago
Join us as we dig a tiny bit deeper into the hype surrounding "AI" press releases, research papers, and more. Each episode, we'll highlight ongoing research and investigations, providing some much needed contextualization, constructive critique, and even a smidge of occasional good will teasing to the conversation, trying to find the meaning under all of this muck.
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Join us as we dig a tiny bit deeper into the hype surrounding "AI" press releases, research papers, and more. Each episode, we'll highlight ongoing research and investigations, providing some much needed contextualization, constructive critique, and even a smidge of occasional good will teasing to the conversation, trying to find the meaning under all of this muck.
Show more...
Technology
Science,
Mathematics
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Winter is Coming for OpenAI
muckrAIkers
1 hour 22 minutes
1 year ago
Winter is Coming for OpenAI

Brace yourselves, winter is coming for OpenAI - atleast, that's what we think. In this episode we look at OpenAI's recent massive funding round and ask "why would anyone want to fund a company that is set to lose net 5 billion USD for 2024?" We scrape through a whole lot of muck to find the meaningful signals in all this news, and there is a lot of it, so get ready!


  • (00:00) - Intro
  • (00:28) - Hot off the press
  • (02:43) - Why listen?
  • (06:07) - Why might VCs invest?
  • (15:52) - What are people saying
  • (23:10) - How *is* OpenAI making money?
  • (28:18) - Is AI hype dying?
  • (41:08) - Why might big companies invest?
  • (48:47) - Concrete impacts of AI
  • (52:37) - Outcome 1: OpenAI as a commodity
  • (01:04:02) - Outcome 2: AGI
  • (01:04:42) - Outcome 3: best plausible case
  • (01:07:53) - Outcome 1*: many ways to bust
  • (01:10:51) - Outcome 4+: shock factor
  • (01:12:51) - What's the muck
  • (01:21:17) - Extended outro

Links

  • Reuters article - OpenAI closes $6.6 billion funding haul with investment from Microsoft and Nvidia
  • Goldman Sachs report - GenAI: Too Much Spend, Too Little Benefit
  • Apricitas Economics article - The AI Investment Boom
  • Discussion of "The AI Investment Boom" on YCombinator
  • State of AI in 13 Charts
  • Fortune article - OpenAI sees $5 billion loss in 2024 and soaring sales as big ChatGPT fee hikes planned, report says

More on AI Hype (Dying)

  • Latent Space article - The Winds of AI Winter
  • Article by Gary Marcus - The Great AI Retrenchment has Begun
  • TimmermanReport article - AI: If Not Now, When? No, Really - When?
  • MIT News article - Who Will Benefit from AI?
  • Washington Post article - The AI Hype bubble is deflating. Now comes the hard part.
  • Andreesen Horowitz article - Why AI Will Save the World

Other Sources

  • Human-Centered Artificial Intelligence Foundation Model Transparency Index
  • Cointelegraph article - Europe gathers global experts to draft ‘Code of Practice’ for AI
  • Reuters article - Microsoft's VP of GenAI research to join OpenAI
  • Twitter post from Tim Brooks on joining DeepMind
  • Edward Zitron article - The Man Who Killed Google Search
muckrAIkers
Join us as we dig a tiny bit deeper into the hype surrounding "AI" press releases, research papers, and more. Each episode, we'll highlight ongoing research and investigations, providing some much needed contextualization, constructive critique, and even a smidge of occasional good will teasing to the conversation, trying to find the meaning under all of this muck.