In this Horror Health episode of the ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Movie Health Podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Kathryn⁠⁠ interviews grief counsellor Vanessa Bowen to delve into the psychological horror films Smile and Smile 2, exploring their grief, trauma, and mental health themes. They discuss the unsettling nature of the movie's symbolism, the portrayal of mental health professionals, and the symbolic representation of trauma through the films' narratives and characters. The conversation highlights the emotional intensity of the movies and their impact on viewers, particularly about mental health stigma and the experience of grief. In this engaging conversation, Kathryn and Vanessa delve into the world of horror films and share personal recommendations for Halloween viewing.

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