I interview Kevin Conley Jr., @backcountryninjas, the author of Above the Ashes. The book, the man, the legend, graces us with his presence, and we go deep into his journey across the southern tier on his bike with his dog rocky. Kevin shares wisdom from his voyage of forgiveness, gratitude, and love.⁠ ⁠ Kevin is an open book, and we talk in-depth about the night that he wanted to end it all and what changed his mind. Kevin shares the dark, the ugly, and the love he found on his journey. We discuss the synchronicities that followed him across the country, including a group of Apache natives singing him a sacred song at a truck stop. Then, of course, we talked about Rocky and how he was Kevin’s anchor and support companion that made it all possible. ⁠ ⁠ ⁠ Kevin speaks his truth and will inspire you to share your challenges with others too. The more we talk about mental health in wildland fire, the more lives we save from suicide. You need to listen to this episode if you are a wildland firefighter struggling with mental health this off-season.⁠ ⁠ Listen to the episode, link in the bio, or find the Conscious Fire Culture podcast on all the apps. ⁠ ⁠ If you don’t have a copy of the book yet, go to ⁠ KevinTheAuthor.com and get your copy. or go to @backcountryninjas