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Mother! Murderer! Podcaster!
Katie Lee/ Louis Jordan
17 episodes
1 week ago
Filmmaker Katie Madonna Lee and writer Louis Jordan discuss the most outrageous made-for-TV movies of the 80’s and 90’s!
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Filmmaker Katie Madonna Lee and writer Louis Jordan discuss the most outrageous made-for-TV movies of the 80’s and 90’s!
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Mother! Murderer! Podcaster!
Paper Dolls: 1982 TV Movie about the Treacherous World of Teen Modeling starring Darryl Hannah, Joan Hackett, Craig T Nelson and Joan Collins!

At first glance Paper Dolls, the 1982 TV movie which spawned a short-lived primetime soap, looks like glittering 80's camp wearing neon pink blush, wrapped in a gold lamé Nolan Miller dress. But the movie reveals itself to be a smart, sensitive examination of the modeling industry––how it uses and sexualizes teenage girls, and the price those girls pay.

Darryl Hannah, excellent in an early starring role, plays a barely disguised version of Brooke Shields, hounded by her stage mother (Joan Hackett). Alexandra Hall plays a suburban teenager, new to modeling, with no idea what's in store for her. Glamorous Joan Collins is the jaded modeling agent who makes it all happen.

Directed by Oscar-winner Edward Zwick (Courage Under Fire, Legends of the Fall), Paper Dolls is an amazing mix of high-camp 80's fashion and genuinely moving performances and filmmaking.

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1 year ago
53 minutes 44 seconds

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A Cry For Help: The Tracey Thurman Story--A Brutal True Crime Story About Spousal Abuse, Attempted Murder and Misogynist Cops!
For Valentines Day, we're covering the 1989 TV movie "A Cry For Help: The Tracey Thurman Story," based on a true story, starring Nancy McKeon and Dale Midkiff. You'll be relieved you're single! Tracey Thurman tried to escape her abusive husband Buck, but he followed and relentlessly stalked her. No matter how many time she reported him to the police, they refused to help her. Then one day, Buck stabbed Tracey 13 times in broad daylight, in front of a cop! When she recovered, Tracey sued the police department and helped put a new law in place protecting victims of abuse. Your hosts filmmaker Katie Madonna Lee and writer Louis Jordan, with special guest Autumn Welker, discuss the effect Tracey Thurman's case on changing laws and raising awareness about spousal abuse. We also discuss Lisa Bianco, whose tragic death at the hands of her husband helped spark change, and talk about why portrayals of abuse in TV movies get it right more often than theatrical movies.
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1 year ago
1 hour 1 minute 21 seconds

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A Smoky Mountain Christmas: Dolly Parton's 1986 Christmas TV Movie Where She Fights An Evil Mountain Witch!

For our Christmas Episode, we're covering A Smoky Mountain Christmas, Dolly Parton's 1986 TV Movie that retells Snow White with an Appalachian twist, co-starring Lee Majors, Anita Morris and John Ritter and directed by Henry Winkler (!). Dolly stumbles upon seven orphans in a cabin, and then must fight off an evil mountain witch and sexually harassing, false-arresting crooked cops to save the kids from the orphanage.

A Smoky Mountain is so genuinely sweet and so over-the-top camp, it's a perfect Christmas movie. Katie and Louis talk about the tragic events in Dolly Parton's life that may have inspired the movie, scream about Anita Morris as the witch Jezebel, and discuss how the one flaw in Dolly's performance is the same thing that has allowed her to be so beloved for so many years. Happy Holidays everyone! Have a holly Dolly Christmas!

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1 year ago
49 minutes 21 seconds

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Elvis and Me: Sophia Coppola's Priscilla and the 1988 TV Movie Based on the Same Book!

Sophia Coppola's 2023 biopic "Priscilla," starring Cailee Spaeny and Jacob Elordi, wasn't the first film about Priscilla Presley!

The two-part 1988 TV movie "Elvis and Me," also based on Priscilla Presley's memoir, starred Susan Walters and Dale Midkiff. "Elvis and Me" went deeper and darker than "Priscilla," showing a version of Elvis Presley who was more abusive and cruel than Jacob Elordi's portrayal of the star as an overgrown manchild.

Katie and Louis dive into why Sophia Coppola softened the story's edges, and how society's view of Elvis and Priscilla's relationship has slowly shifted from "grand romance" to "grooming."

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1 year ago
56 minutes 56 seconds

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The Ryan White Story: Landmark AIDS TV Movie starring Judith Light, Sarah Jessica Parker, George C. Scott and Lukas Haas

During the late 80's, Ryan White was the public face of AIDS. Ryan was a heterosexual teenage boy from Kokomo, Indiana who got HIV from infected blood products used to treat his hemophilia. His legal battle to be able to attend school after being diagnosed became a national sensation, and his case won the hearts and minds of middle Americans who had seen AIDS as a gay disease. This 1989 TV movie was a major part of Ryan White's legacy and shows just how culturally important TV Movies can be.

Louis talks with his co-host Katie about her memories of growing up in Indiana during the peak years of Ryan White's fame. We look at how the city of Kokomo was negatively affected by this TV movie, how the real life story was actually worse than how its presented onscreen, Ryan's friendships with Elton John and Michael Jackson, his media narrative as an "innocent victim" of AIDS, and Ryan's lasting influence on HIV treatment.

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2 years ago
50 minutes 46 seconds

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Rock n' Roll Mom: Nostalgic 80's Disney TV Movie Starring Dyan Cannon, Fran Drescher and Heather Locklear!

She's a mom..and she ROCKS. She's Rock n' Roll Mom! This heartwarming, campy 1988 TV Movie from the Wonderful World of Disney stars Dyan Cannon as Annie, a small-town single mom who's a singer/songwriter in her spare time. When she's accidentally discovered by a major label, a stylist (Fran Drescher) transforms Annie into Mystere, a mysterious rock star who's 13 years younger than Annie, with no kids. But just as she's topping the charts, jealous pop diva Darcy X (Heather Locklear) reveals Mystere's true identity to the public. Can Annie stay true to herself and her kids and still be a Rock n' Roll Mom? Writer Louis Jordan and filmmaker Katie Madonna Lee discuss all this, as well as motherhood, sexism, showbiz and Waddy Watchel.

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2 years ago
36 minutes 33 seconds

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Roe vs. Wade: 1989 TV Movie about the Case that Legalized Abortion, Starring Holly Hunter!
MMP gets topical with Roe vs. Wade, the 1989 NBC TV Movie about the landmark legal case that made abortion legal—at least for a while. The film stars Holly Hunter in an Emmy-winning performance as “Jane Roe,” and Amy Madigan, who won a Golden Globe as the lawyer who argued the case. Katie and Louis talk about abortion, religion, feminism and the batshit life of Norma McCorvey, the real life Jane Roe.
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2 years ago
1 hour 12 minutes 59 seconds

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Perfect People: Supermodel Lauren Hutton Stars in an 80's TV Movie about Fitness, Plastic Surgery and Acid-Washed Denim!
In 2023, between fitness influencers, Ozempic injections and BBL's, it can feel like there's never been more pressure to have a perfect body. But the fitness craze, plastic surgery and health food all went mainstream back in the 1980's. In the 1988 ABC TV movie Perfect People, supermodel Lauren Hutton and hunky Perry King don wigs and stomach padding to play Kenneth and Barbara, a schlumpy middle-aged couple who've lost their spark. Barbara tries to get the couple in shape for their upcoming European vacation, but becomes obsessed with looking perfect and ends up spending their vacation money on head-to-toe plastic surgery makeover, transforming herself into—Lauren Hutton! Co-starring sassy Priscilla Barnes from Three's Company and sleazy David Leisure, Perfect People is a light, fun satire with a heartfelt message about self-acceptance that's as relevant now as it was in 1988. Support our show, buy us a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/tvmoviepodc
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2 years ago
1 hour 2 minutes 23 seconds

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The Twilight of the Golds: Brendan Fraser Shines in this LGBT TV Movie!
In honor of Brendan Fraser's comeback in Darren Aronofsky's The Whale, we're covering his 1997 Showtime TV Movie, Twilight of the Golds, co-starring Faye Dunaway, Jennifer Beals, Rosie O'Donnell and Gary Marshall. Based on the Broadway play, Twilight of the Golds explores the hidden intolerance in a supposedly liberal family, the Golds. When Suzanne becomes pregnant, she takes an experimental genetic test and discovers that her unborn child will grow up to be gay. Suzanne's gay brother David watches with horror as the homophobia that has simmered beneath the surface of his family raises to a boil. Will Suzanne learn to love her gay fetus? Will David repair his relationship with his parents? Will Faye Dunaway tone down that over-the-top Yiddish accent? Find out when writer Louis Jordan and filmmaker Katie Madonna Lee discuss this hot-button issue TV Movie and swoon over Brendan Fraser at peak hotness. Buy us a coffee and support our show: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/tvmoviepodc
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2 years ago
1 hour 5 minutes 12 seconds

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Wife, Mother, Murderer: Judith Light Stars as Marie Hilley in this True Crime Made-For-TV Movie Classic!
It's time! We're finally covering our podcast's namesake, the 1991 ABC made-for-TV movie "Wife, Mother, Murderer." Judith Light, of Who's the Boss fame, stars in a true crime story with big plot twists and bigger shoulder pads! When Marie Hilley's husband dies of a mysterious illness and she collects the life insurance, no one asks questions. But when her own daughter then becomes sick, and the police discover that Marie was behind it all. She goes on the run from the law, fakes her own death, then comes back as her blond identical twin! Writer Louis Jordan and filmmaker Katie Madonna Lee (and her identical twin sister Sadie Madonna Lee) discuss what makes this made-for-TV classic so much fun, and how the real story was somehow even more bizarre. Support us by buying us a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/tvmoviepodc
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2 years ago
54 minutes 32 seconds

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Blonde: How does the 2001 TV movie of Blonde compare to the 2022 Netflix film?
Andrew Dominik’s Netflix film Blonde, a fictional version of Marilyn Monroe’s life based on the Joyce Carol Oates book, caused a lot of controversy recently––but it wasn’t the first screen adaptation of Blonde! In 2001, CBS released a made-for-TV miniseries of Blonde starring Poppy Montgomery as Marilyn, and co-starring Ann Margret, Kirstie Alley, Patrick Dempsey, Patricia Richardson and Griffin Dunne. It was written and directed by women, and had a very different take on Marilyn than the 2022 version. It’s the Blonde on Blonde as Louis and Katie discuss the two films and decide which one needs its roots done!                          Support our show and buy us a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/tvmoviepodc Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZl9ysOSINvxi4uVEqXSC2Q  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mothermurdererpodcaster/  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mothermurdererpodcaster
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3 years ago
1 hour 48 minutes 39 seconds

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Halloween Special: "Thriller"-inspired cult classic The Midnight Hour, starring LeVar Burton and Lee Montgomery!
For our Halloween episode, we’re covering the horror-comedy The Midnight Hour, an ABC made-for-TV movie from 1985. It’s basically Michael Jackson’s Thriller as a feature length movie. It’s got all the classic Thriller touches–– zombies, werewolves, a mix of 1950’s and 1980’s teenagers, and a big MTV-style musical number. Yet the Midnight Hour doesn’t come off as derivative; it’s spooky fun with great cinematography and a killer soundtrack of 60’s songs. The film has earned a place as beloved Halloween cult classic. The Midnight Hour stars Lee Montgomery and Jonna Lee, as well as the relatives of some big-name stars––Shari Belafonte, Peter DeLuise and Deedee Pfeiffer––and Reading Rainbow icon LeVar Burton.  Writer Louis Jordan and filmmaker Katie Madonna Lee talk about Katie’s childhood memories of The Midnight Hour and the perfect nostalgia-storm of an 80’s holiday movie with 60’s music. Happy Halloween!  Support us, buy us a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/tvmoviepodc To watch "The Midnight Hour" full movie:  https://youtu.be/ZCU_vEuZH3g Subscribe to our audio podcast on Spotify, Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen.  Follow us on Instagram and TikTok at: https://linktr.ee/tvmoviepodcast Our Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZl9ysOSINvxi4uVEqXSC2Q Our Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mothermurdererpodcaster/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mothermurdererpodcaster
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3 years ago
1 hour 11 minutes 8 seconds

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Tarzan in Manhattan: Cult Leader Gwen Shamblin’s Husband Joe Lara Stars in this Campy 80’s TV Movie!
Cult leader and weight loss guru Gwen Shamblin and her husband Joe Lara became infamous after they died in a plane crash in 2021, and then were the subject of the HBO docu-series The Way Down. But it wasn’t Lara’s first time in the spotlight—he first entered the public consciousness as the star of the campy 1989 made-for-TV movie Tarzan in Manhattan. Lara, a former male model, is pure eye candy swinging around NYC in a tiny loincloth. Golden Age Hollywood star Tony Curtis and Broadway actress Kim Crosby bring charm and comic relief to the film as a cranky private investigator and his tough-talking, cab-driving daughter Jane. But can we still enjoy this movie knowing what we now know about Joe Lara’s involvement in a cult that abused, cheated and in one case murdered its members? Filmmaker Katie Madonna Lee and writer Louis Jordan discuss Tarzan in Manhattan, the mystery of Gwen Shamblin’s hair, and what to do with good movies starring bad people. Buy us a coffee! https://www.buymeacoffee.com/tvmoviepodc Our Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZl9ysOSINvxi4uVEqXSC2Q Our Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mothermurdererpodcaster/ TikToc: https://www.tiktok.com/@mothermurdererpodcaster
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3 years ago
1 hour 34 minutes 11 seconds

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False Arrest: Donna Mills Gets Tough in Prison in this True Crime TV Movie!
In this 1991 true crime TV movie based on the Redmond murder case, Donna Mills plays Joyce Lukezic, a wealthy woman framed for two murders she did not commit. Joyce has to toughen up to survive life in a women’s prison, clear her name, and hold on to her false eyelashes! Buy us a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/tvmoviepodc Our Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZl9ysOSINvxi4uVEqXSC2Q Our Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mothermurdererpodcaster/ TikToc: https://www.tiktok.com/@mothermurdererpodcaster
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3 years ago
1 hour 27 minutes 18 seconds

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Making of A Male Model: Camp Classic With a Real-Life Tragic Ending!
The 1983 made-for-TV movie “Making of A Male Model” stars Jon-Erik Hexum and Joan Collins in a sexy, campy tale about the price of fame. Joan Collins was a former Hollywood actress who became a household name in the 80’s playing a glamorous villain on Aaron Spelling’s prime-time soap opera “Dynasty.” Jon-Erik Hexum was an up-and-coming heartthrob whose life was cut short by an on-set accident with a prop gun just one year after “Male Model” aired. The film serves as a time capsule for Jon-Erik Hexum's beauty, talent and potential. He shines in this fun, campy movie that gender flips the usual cautionary tale of fame—a kind of “Valley of the Ken Dolls.” Jeff Conaway co-stars as Chuck, a former super-model who is falling into drug addiction. Like Chuck, Conaway struggled with addiction after his break out role in "Grease." Stay tuned as we deep dive into this fun movie with many tragic off-screen endings. Buy us a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/tvmoviepodc Our Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZl9ysOSINvxi4uVEqXSC2Q Our Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mothermurdererpodcaster/ TikToc: https://www.tiktok.com/@mothermurdererpodcaster
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3 years ago
1 hour 3 minutes 10 seconds

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3 years ago
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Death of A Cheerleader: True Crime & Tori Spelling Collide in the Iconic 1994 TV Movie!
True crime and Tori Spelling collide in this based-on-a-true-story made-for-TV movie. Join Louis Jordan & Katie Madonna Lee for an entertaining discussion about one of the most iconic made-for-TV movies of all time: Death of a Cheerleader.  Buy us a coffee and support our show: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/tvmoviepodc Our Youtube Channel:  https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZl9ysOSINvxi4uVEqXSC2Q Our Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mothermurdererpodcaster/ TikToc: https://www.tiktok.com/@mothermurdererpodcaster Watch Death Of A Cheerleader: https://youtu.be/DsD0DByvFEo
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3 years ago
1 hour 24 minutes 39 seconds

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Filmmaker Katie Madonna Lee and writer Louis Jordan discuss the most outrageous made-for-TV movies of the 80’s and 90’s!