On March 13, 1997, something massive and silent moved across the sky over Phoenix, Arizona—seen by thousands, captured on tape, and still unexplained to this day.
In Episode 16 of Mostly True Alien Stories, hosts Neal and Andrew welcome special guest Don Sill (host of Donversations) for an in-depth exploration of one of the most credible UFO sightings in American history.
From military denials to witness testimonies—including a future governor—this episode unpacks the Phoenix Lights and asks:
Was it a top-secret government op… or a moment of mass contact?
Stick around for our “Mostly True” weigh-in, rapid-fire alien takes with Don, and a few laughs along the way.
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction to Mostly True Alien Stories
00:00 Cold Open Intro
00:37 Show Open / Guest Intro
02:17 Don's Belief in Alien Life
03:31 The Moon Landing Debate
06:05 Celebrity Space Travel and Its Authenticity
10:08 Don Sill's Podcast Journey
12:29 Exploring the Depths: The Thrill of Spelunking
13:45 Memorable Encounters: Stories from the Comedy Scene
16:24 Rapid Fire: Truths and Myths about Aliens
23:46 The Phoenix Lights Incident: A Deep Dive
25:23 The Phoenix Lights Incident
27:27 Eyewitness Accounts and Theories
30:49 Andrew Weighs In On Mostly True or Not
34:12 Don Sill Weigh's In On Mostly True of Not
36:36 Neal's Verdict on Mostly True of Not
39:57 Final Thoughts and Takeaways