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Carter and Ben come to a climactic realization they do not know where one came from and also the other. They talk it over. Other topics include:
- Christmas music
- Carter's favorite Radiohead phases
- What we refer to affectionately as "The North Country"
- What we refer to affectionately as "Mathcore That Carter Plays"
- The Peavey T40 Bass
- What we refer to affectionately as "Ben's Career As A Guitar Slinger Out West"
- Musical Humility pt. 2
- Carter's Warm-Ups 1/3
- Charlie Christian
- Revstar Standard
- What we refer to affectionately as "How to Relic a Guitar With a Hammer"
- John Petrucci's "Rock Discipline" (A Golden Era Of Talkin' 'Bout Guitar)
- You Know We're All Gonna Call You An Old Man
- A Picture Of Creativity: Catching A Fish
- The Rhythm Hand
- Topon Das // Apartment 2 Recording
- I Don't Think That's The Gear's Fault
- The Most Unobtanium Stuff
- The Bordeaux 12" Princeton (Segue to Iron Supremacy)
- The Ocean by Lead Zepper (Segue to Jim Martin and Jeff)
- Treble is Scary
- Modern vs. Vintage voicing
- Bamps (Ben's amps)
- Thousand Dollar Rebuild Hypothetical
- Shouts out to Gorham Bros. Music
