Erik Torenberg, Dan Romero, Antonio Garcia Martinez
141 episodes
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Every week, Erik Torenberg, Dan Romero, Antonio Garcia Martinez and frequent special guests discuss what's happening in technology, business, politics, and beyond.
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Every week, Erik Torenberg, Dan Romero, Antonio Garcia Martinez and frequent special guests discuss what's happening in technology, business, politics, and beyond.
Moment of Zen is part of the Turpentine podcast network. Learn more: turpentine.co
The Middle Class Myth and China’s Future with Noah Smith
"Moment of Zen"
53 minutes 58 seconds
5 months ago
The Middle Class Myth and China’s Future with Noah Smith
Today on Moment of Zen, Erik Torenberg and Noah Smith debunk the myth that globalization destroyed America's middle class, showing wages actually grew during hyperglobalization. It examines the limited "China shock" impact and critiques how both political tribes' technology fears may handicap America's competitiveness against China.
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HIGHLIGHTS OF THE DISCUSSION:
Main Argument
Myth: Globalization hollowed out America's middle class
Reality: Middle class moved UP income brackets; wages grew 40% during peak globalization
Real Causes
1973 oil shock caused wage stagnation (70s-80s), not globalization
China shock (2000s): Only 2M manufacturing jobs lost, limited scope
America vs. China
US: Less globalized than most countries; only 4% manufacturing trade deficit
China: Cities will look shabby in 30 years; exports falling as % of GDP
Political Technology Paralysis
Republicans: Fear hardware (solar, batteries, EVs)
Progressives: Fear software (AI, social media)
Both sides handicapping American tech leadership while China advances
"Moment of Zen"
Every week, Erik Torenberg, Dan Romero, Antonio Garcia Martinez and frequent special guests discuss what's happening in technology, business, politics, and beyond.
Moment of Zen is part of the Turpentine podcast network. Learn more: turpentine.co