Thought-provoking interview with my friend and colleague educator and researcher Ronan Hallowell M.A., Ed.D. Ronan is Assistant Professor of Clinical Medical Education at the USC School of Medicine. As a member of the Learning Sciences Team in the Department of Medical Education at Keck, he works with colleagues to provide a suite of curriculum and instruction services to faculty and administrators that includes instructional design and faculty development. He currently serves as a Co-Investigator on a digital health literacy grant funded by the AMA as part of its Accelerating Change in Medical Education initiative. Dr. Hallowell also conducts research on physician professional identity formation, curriculum design and cross-cultural perspectives on medicine. He is a student of the world’s wisdom traditions and a ceremonial singer in the Lakota Native American tradition. We explore the hot topics of structural racism and cultural competency, and how do we prepare the next generation of healthcare providers to be more sophisticated with these topics. How can indigenous wisdom guide us into a deeper compassion? Learn more at modernspirit.org.