We rarely get to hear how people actually make relationships work, especially in the high-pressure, fast-paced world of tech. While there's endless dating advice out there, what's missing are the real, unfiltered stories of how ambitious people navigate modern relationships and build a life together.
Unlike every other aspect of modern life that can be solved with an app or outsourced to a service, building meaningful relationships remains stubbornly resistant to quick fixes. Through conversations with leading relationship thinkers and candid interviews with real couples, we dig into the raw truth of what it takes to make partnerships work - from the challenges and fights to the breakthroughs and lessons learned along the way.
I believe we learn best from seeing how others have navigated similar paths. These conversations offer honest perspectives on what it really takes to make modern relationships work in our corner of the world.
Hosted by Erik Torenberg, investor and entrepreneur.
Modern Relationships is part of the Turpentine podcast network.
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We rarely get to hear how people actually make relationships work, especially in the high-pressure, fast-paced world of tech. While there's endless dating advice out there, what's missing are the real, unfiltered stories of how ambitious people navigate modern relationships and build a life together.
Unlike every other aspect of modern life that can be solved with an app or outsourced to a service, building meaningful relationships remains stubbornly resistant to quick fixes. Through conversations with leading relationship thinkers and candid interviews with real couples, we dig into the raw truth of what it takes to make partnerships work - from the challenges and fights to the breakthroughs and lessons learned along the way.
I believe we learn best from seeing how others have navigated similar paths. These conversations offer honest perspectives on what it really takes to make modern relationships work in our corner of the world.
Hosted by Erik Torenberg, investor and entrepreneur.
Modern Relationships is part of the Turpentine podcast network.
E8: Marriage is a Preparation for Divorce | Agnes Callard & Arnold Brooks
"Modern Relationships"
1 hour 9 minutes
8 months ago
E8: Marriage is a Preparation for Divorce | Agnes Callard & Arnold Brooks
Philosophers Agnes Callard and Arnold Brooks bring their intellectual rigor to marriage and relationships. They sit down with Erik Torenberg to discuss their relationship's beginnings (when Agnes was Arnold's professor), their Platonic versus Aristotelian disagreements about whether marriage is something to transcend or achieve, and why relationships must "escape their beginnings" to thrive. Agnes explains why "marriage is a preparation for divorce," while Arnold argues the healthiest foundation for partnership isn't reciprocal support but simply appreciating how your partner lives—what he calls "bearing witness.".
Modern Relationships is a podcast from Turpentine. Learn more: www.turpentine.co
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RECOMMENDED IN THIS EPISODE:
* New Yorker article on Agnes and Arnold, by Rachel Aviv: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/03/13/agnes-callard-profile-marriage-philosophy
* Arnold Brooks: http://philosophy.uchicago.edu/arnold-brooks
* Pre-order Agnes Callard's new book Open Socrates: https://wwnorton.com/books/open-socrates
* Agnes Callard on Upstream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JotaCsaG3Y
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Agnes - @agnescallard
Erik - @eriktorenberg
Turpentine - @turpentinemedia
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TIMESTAMPS:
(01:49) Intro
(02:08) Agnes' and Arnold's relationship background
(08:13) Marriage and philosophy connection
(16:38) Sponsor: Relationship Hero
(18:13) Discussion about divorce
(26:37) Relationships haunted by their beginnings
(30:18) Maintaining friendship with an ex-partner
(34:00) Advice on choosing a partner
(43:34) Conflict about ambition and contentment
(49:35) Arnold's advice to overthink marriage together
(59:42) Parenting philosophy and making children interesting
(1:04:12) Reflections
(1:08:17) Wrap
"Modern Relationships"
We rarely get to hear how people actually make relationships work, especially in the high-pressure, fast-paced world of tech. While there's endless dating advice out there, what's missing are the real, unfiltered stories of how ambitious people navigate modern relationships and build a life together.
Unlike every other aspect of modern life that can be solved with an app or outsourced to a service, building meaningful relationships remains stubbornly resistant to quick fixes. Through conversations with leading relationship thinkers and candid interviews with real couples, we dig into the raw truth of what it takes to make partnerships work - from the challenges and fights to the breakthroughs and lessons learned along the way.
I believe we learn best from seeing how others have navigated similar paths. These conversations offer honest perspectives on what it really takes to make modern relationships work in our corner of the world.
Hosted by Erik Torenberg, investor and entrepreneur.
Modern Relationships is part of the Turpentine podcast network.
