Recorded at the Nobel Peace Center during Oslo Innovation Week for the Peace of Mind Podcast series, this Modern Idealist episode explores how humanity can survive and thrive in the digital age. Hosts Valerie Leung and Meryn Zumbo Willets speak with Pardis Shafafi, anthropologist practitioner and previously the Global Responsible Business Lead at Designit Oslo, whose rare profile combines humanitarian work, journalism, and ethical innovation. Together, they unpack the paradox of a world that is both advancing and unraveling, asking how we can face complexity, show up purposefully, and take concrete action in our lives and workplaces to drive meaningful change.