It's A Bonus Episode!

Ben chats with Alice Williams and Emma Dutton, two seriously impressive veterans who also happen to be university mates.

Alice, after a decade in the Army, is now smashing it in leadership at Schneider Electric. Emma, ex-RAF, went from human intelligence to co-founding Applied Influence Group, with a stint in the film industry in between.

They’ve both taken wildly different career paths, but here’s the kicker—they’ve both built their success on the same thing. No fluff, just the raw truth about how military experience shaped their rise to the top, and how leaning into risk and resilience has been the real game-changer.

Tune in to discover the one quality they both share that’s behind their success and why it might just be the secret ingredient you need.