
In this inspiring episode of Ministry Pivot, Rev. Russ sits down with the Reverend Dr. Nicole Massie Martin—author, executive leader, preacher, and teacher—to talk about her new book Nailing It and the heart of redemptive leadership.
Dr. Martin shares how her journey in executive ministry leadership helped shape her understanding that you are not your role. She reminds leaders that true leadership begins with discipleship—leading from who God called you to be, not just what your position requires.
The conversation dives deep into themes of authenticity, rest, suffering, and the sacred balance between serving and scaling. Together, they explore what it means to “nail” worldly measures of success to the cross and rediscover that God alone defines enough.
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